The Skies We’re Under

Entering the Gladiator Ring with Elly Chapple and George Julian | S4 | E22

The narrative is that as parent carers we often have to fight.
Enter the Gladiator ring: for Elly Chapple this began in 2020 with her daughter fighting for her life in ITU and within weeks she was fighting for her family to stay together.
In this special episode of The Skies We’re Under Podcast, Elly Chapple and George Julian share the unfolding events and human rights case brought on behalf of Ella when her mother Ellie was removed from her home after child protection proceedings began. 
This conversation brings together the many facets of trauma families face. It is a real-life example of parent carer trauma, trauma in people with profound disabilities, systems generated trauma and being brought to the brink.
This powerful and vulnerable episode comes with special thanks to Elly and her family for sharing their personal story. Our hope is that by shining a light, lessons can be learned for systems and practitioners so that ultimately children and families are better protected.
You can find out more about Elly here.
You can see her TEDx Talk here.
You can find more about George here.
George can also be found on Bluesky here.
You can see George’s writing on Elly’s experience here.
This Episode is brought to you in partnership with Kidz to Adultz.
 
We are looking forward to being at Kidz to Adultz Middle exhibition again this year. We’d love for you to come and join us, not only for our live podcast recording with Lee Ridley (Lost Voice Guy) but to chat with you on our stand.  
 
Thursday 13th March 2025,
Coventry Building Society Arena
 
Kidz to Adultz exhibitions are unique! With five exciting exhibitions held across the UK, each featuring over 100 exhibitors, these events provide a fantastic chance to discover the latest innovations, equipment, products, services, and support available for children and young people with disabilities and additional needs, as well as their parents, carers, and all the professionals who support them.
We’d love to hear from you – we love sharing stories, we love hearing how things are going, the good, the bad, the snotty-crying ugly.
You can leave a message with us in a number of ways:
Firstly you can leave a message using speakpipe here: SpeakpipeTSWU
 (Please note calls need to be limited to 90 seconds)
You can send us a voice note from your phone to our email address at tswupodcast@gmail.com
Or, if the thought of hearing your own voice gives you ‘the ick’, then send us an email to tswupodcast@gmail.com
Whatever way you choose to get in touch, we really want to hear your thoughts, views, musings, rants and confessions (we love a confession!) .
Thanks for listening and being a part of our podcast community -It would make our day if you could like, follow and review the podcast wherever you listen. 
We’re so happy that The Skies We’re Under is a free, independent podcast. Any sponsorship received is used to cover the costs of the production of episodes and compensate our valuable guests for their time. The hosts provide their time and efforts for free. They do, however, appreciate any offers of caffeination to keep them going – you can buy them a cuppa here… 
Follow us on Instagram @BornatRightTime. Head to www.bornattherighttime.com to find a parent workshop or CPD-certified training for practitioners in communication, collaboration and personalised care with parents/carers.

Trips and Toilets | Trauma Tap Out

We realise that trauma can be a tough theme to grapple with, and listen to. To help bring some of the humour and light that only Rachel and co. can bring, we’re calling this a ‘Trauma Tap out’
Rachel reflects on what should have been a relaxing trip away, but the stress hits before she even takes off.
When she did eventually make it to Casa Peguche, it was lovely though… you can find out more about them here.
Thanks to the lovely folk at Accessoloo for sponsoring this week's episode. You can find more about them and their work here.
 If you'd be interested in sponsoring an episode of The Skies We're Under, please contact us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com.
We’d love to hear from you – we love sharing stories, we love hearing how things are going, the good, the bad, the snotty-crying ugly.
You can leave a message with us in a number of ways:
Firstly you can leave a message using speakpipe here: SpeakpipeTSWU
 (Please note calls need to be limited to 90 seconds)
You can send us a voice note from your phone to our email address at tswupodcast@gmail.com
Or, if the thought of hearing your own voice gives you ‘the ick’, then send us an email to tswupodcast@gmail.com
Whatever way you choose to get in touch, we really want to hear your thoughts, views, musings, rants and confessions (we love a confession!) .
Thanks for listening and being a part of our podcast community -It would make our day if you could like, follow and review the podcast wherever you listen. 
We’re so happy that The Skies We’re Under is a free, independent podcast. Any sponsorship received is used to cover the costs of the production of episodes and compensate our valuable guests for their time. The hosts provide their time and efforts for free. They do, however, appreciate any offers of caffeination to keep them going – you can buy them a cuppa here…  
Follow us on Instagram @BornatRightTime. Head to www.bornattherighttime.com to find a parent workshop or CPD-certified training for practitioners in communication, collaboration and personalised care with parents/carers.

Parent Carer Suicide: What we need to know | S4 | 21

CONTENT WARNING - This episode contains references to both suicide and homicide. If you think you will find any of these subjects difficult to listen to, please do listen to another of our episodes. We will also have a “Trauma Tap-Out’ on Friday.
Join Rachel and Lucy as they battle through various infections, to discuss the very important topic of parent carer suicide. They are joined by Dr Siobhan O’Dwyer, an Associate Professor of Social Care, with expertise in unpaid carers, their experiences and the increased likelihood of them having suicidal thoughts.
We know this one is tricky, but we also know that when people share that they feel suicidal, they think they are the only ones to feel this way. We know they aren’t alone, and we want to raise awareness of this amongst our listeners.
The following resources are available for support:
Samaritans
TEL - 116 123
Affinity Hub
NHS Urgent Mental Health
MIND Urgent Help
You can find more about Siobhan here.
Her full article is available here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13811118.2024.2363230?src=exp-la 
And her championing of the work of Leeds Carer’s here.
Thanks to the lovely folk at Accessoloo for sponsoring this week's episode. You can find more about them and their work here.
 If you'd be interested in sponsoring an episode of The Skies We're Under, please contact us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com.
 
We’d love to hear from you – we love sharing stories, we love hearing how things are going, the good, the bad, the snotty-crying ugly.
You can leave a message with us in a number of ways:
Firstly you can leave a message using speakpipe here: SpeakpipeTSWU
 (Please note calls need to be limited to 90 seconds)
You can send us a voice note from your phone to our email address at tswupodcast@gmail.com
Or, if the thought of hearing your own voice gives you ‘the ick’, then send us an email to tswupodcast@gmail.com
Whatever way you choose to get in touch, we really want to hear your thoughts, views, musings, rants and confessions (we love a confession!) .
Thanks for listening and being a part of our podcast community -It would make our day if you could like, follow and review the podcast wherever you listen. 
We’re so happy that The Skies We’re Under is a free, independent podcast. Any sponsorship received is used to cover the costs of the production of episodes and compensate our valuable guests for their time. The hosts provide their time and efforts for free. They do, however, appreciate any offers of caffeination to keep them going – you can buy them a cuppa here…  
 
Follow us on Instagram @BornatRightTime. Head to www.bornattherighttime.com to find a parent workshop or CPD-certified training for practitioners in communication, collaboration and personalised care with parents/carers.